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VolkswagenRacing 23-01-2006 01:55

Verschil tussen k03 en k03s
 
Ik heb hier een k03s met een kapot comressor huis (inlaat zijde) Nu is de vraag kan er hiervoor ook 1 gebruikt worden van een gewone k03 of echt van de k03s?:

berendd 23-01-2006 08:18

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Originally Posted by www.vagcars.dk
I type this e-mail to you on behalf of many Audi enthusiasts, and myself as an Engineer, who ponder on the same question, as to the interchange-ability of the K03 and K03S turbocharger units.

As a member on one of the largest Audi forums on the web
(www.audi-sport.net), as as a member on many other Golf and Audi forums, I have often seen this subject raised but with no definitive answer ever given, due to a lack of information available. Audi dealers are not technically inept enough to offer an answer, Audi UK are not interested in answering and most aftermarket tuners opt for either the K04 or other brands of turbo so appear not to of looked into the subject.

So the questions are simple;

Can the K03 turbo (5303 988 0011 or 5303 988 0053) be directly replaced by the K03S (5303 988 0052 or 5303 988 0026) in terms of the intake and exhaust housing dimensions?

Is K03S the correct designation for the latter turbo mentioned above?

Obviously if a K03S was fitted an engine map could be changed to suit, but would a standard turbo map for the K03 be suitable for running a K03S on?
or would a loss of power be expected? and are the characteristics of the two very similar?

I hope you can assist with the above and any information you could supply would be gratefully accepted.

It's taken me a couple of weeks to get a response, but the response was worth it, I think yóu'll agree.



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The Answer

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Dear Sir,

thank you for your interest in our products.

First of all, we don't produce any turbo that we call K03S. But I hope I can
answer your questions with the following explanations.

All the following turbos have the same installation dimensions and
thermodynamical performance. The differences are only in the actuator that
opens the turbine bypass valve:
K03-011 (5303 988 0011) 150 hp, 65 N actuator
K03-026 180 hp, 85 N actuator
K03-035 180 hp, 85 N actuator
K03-044 150 hp, 65 N actuator
K03-045 156 hp (Ibiza Cupra), 85 N actuator with 2 ports
K03-049 150 hp (Sharan/Alhambra), 65 N actuator
The 180 hp versions have an actuator with a higher opening force due to the
higher exhaust gas pressure (which is a consequence of the higher boost
pressure). Otherwise the valve would be pushed open by the exhaust gas
pressure.

The following turbos are a further development (since 2000) and have an
improved and slightly larger compressor while using the same turbine (still
with the same installation dimensions):
K03-052 180 hp, 85 N actuator
K03-053 150 hp, 85 N actuator
K03-058 150 hp/180 hp, 85 N actuator

Consequentially, putting a 180 hp turbo on a 150 hp engine will not bring
about any change in performance, but putting on a K03-052/053/058 instead of
the older versions will bring a slight improvement in engine efficiency.
Additionally, with re-mapping the ECU you can achieve about 215 hp without
danger of overspeeding the turbo. With the older turbos, 195 hp is the
limit.

With the K04 that's also commonly used (5304 950 0001) the power output
should not be more than 220 hp. That means, changing a K03-052/053/058
against a K04 does not make a lot of sense.

I hope that these details answer your questions. If you need more info, one
of our service distributors will be glad to help you. Their addresses are on
our website www.turbodriven.com.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen/Best regards,
BorgWarner Turbo Systems GmbH


heb je hier iets aan?

Gert 23-01-2006 08:33

Zo .. das nog eens goede info :D

VolkswagenRacing 23-01-2006 18:37

Owkay.. er staat bij mij op k03-011/97757, volgens jouw verhaal een 150pk (dus geen ko3s) Terwijl hij van een AJQ afkomt (180pk versie) vreemd,

Maar m,n porobleem is dat dat de inlaat kant kapot is en vraag me af of daar ook een huis van een gewone k03 op past?

Hoorde ook wel dat, dat huis juist groter is bij de k03s. Dus als er dan huis van een k03 opkomt het dan een gewone k03 word.

VolkswagenRacing 24-01-2006 18:42

Iemand die weet of dit deel uit is te wisselen met een normale k03? Of is dit juist het deel wat groter is?


VolkswagenRacing 25-01-2006 18:20

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Rallyegolf20vt 25-01-2006 20:38

Waarom probeer je het niet te laten lassen ?
Sommige tuners lassen zelfs andere aanzuigbuizen aan hun turbo`s .

VolkswagenRacing 25-01-2006 23:08

Dat is ook de eerste optie, daarna een ander huis :)

Alleen geen idee waar ik zo iets kan laten doen.

VolkswagenRacing 27-01-2006 18:26

Al wat gevonden,


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