project polo mk1 -old skool/racetrack car
Well, since the derby is mostly done, I am now beginning my other project on the polo. the car is a 76 polo l with 0,9l engine and 40hp :redface:
My plans: exterior- original. the same look as my derby. lots of chrome :) interior- just the plain steel painted, 2 race bucket seats and 4point harnesses, and a cage. engine- 3f engine with tuning cam and motorcycle carbs. (90-100hp) old skool 13X6-7" wheels and 80-100mm lowering. there is extremely little rust on this car luckily. almost just the front and the door, but I have got a new one in store. should get the weight down to 550-600kg when it is done.. that is a lot of fun with 100hp ;) Me and a friend who is the owner of www.raceland.no is going on a trip to ast suspension in valkenswaard, holland and further down to raceland in belgium in the beginning of july. On this trip I will also stop in dortmund and pick up an 3f engine. Just have to get a passport. I thought one could travel between schengen countries without showing passports, but holland seems to have changed theese rules lately :( btw: a passport costs 125 euros in norway.. started with stripping the car today and scraping the floor for padding and glue.. more updates to come. |
super cool, why don' you come by for a cup of coffee, i live between Valkenswaard and Dortmund...
so this is the idea?: nice project but why don't you think of widening like the "berg-cup" cars??? would be cool too and some 13" 8j rims :cool: |
funny :) well, our time schedual is pretty tight as it is.. If it was just me, I would have stopped ;) No, both of theese cars are too racing-look for me.. I want to keep that original old skool look on the outside, pretty much the same as the derby.. the interior and angine will be all racing on the other side...
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the 1st one is pretty old skool, the rims and not widened and all, ok forget the paint-job...
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well, if you give it a better paint job, it would look similar :)
berserker: how is it with passports to get into holland now ? do not think I will get a new one in time.. |
where are you from again? EU country? if so than you only need an ID/identity card and not a passport, but you know since the EU that we have open borders so no-one will check you, only if the police pulls you over...
you can risk to go without, but you also have to go to germany and since the world championship is going on, there are a lot of boarder controls (just slipped my mind) |
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He's from Norway like me, we are not within the EU, but we are following most EU rules (including the Schengen agreement) as we are a part of the EEC. |
yeah.. the problem is that in norway, the only valid identification papers abroad is our passports.. got the engine today on ebay.. 100 euros.. damn thats cheap..
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the only thing to remember is with the World championship that the Germans are really controlling their boarders for terrorists....
so I wouldn't risk it without a passport |
just came back from my trip to eindhoven / Valkenswarg and nijmegen now.. brougt back 4 ats classic rims, a engine and a gearbox.. pics will come.. I am planning a days work on the car tomorrow..
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well, here are the pics I promised you.. the 3f engine, my "new" garage, the ats rims and the inside of the car.. also how the rear wheelarches look now reydu to be welded back in place.. I have already welded the battery box together as you can se.. Also had a hard time removing the glue from the inside of the car, but I am getting there :)
things are atleast moving forward :) |
well, the work is progressing slowly since I just bought a 93- polo fox also, but I have got some welding done, and the engine is assembled, washed, sandblasted and painted..
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how did you get the gearbox so clean? also sandblasted? with some clear paint?
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yepp.. first steaming, then sandblasting and at the end som silver hotpaint.. will last atleast a month ;) Of maybe I have some luck.. this car is only meant for tracks, so it wont be driven that much.. |
bought some bushings today from germany.. payed 161 euros delivered to me in norway, hope theese will help on the track. Pics. are borrowd from thomas78 here on the forum when he mounted them on.
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Ey you're still alive, cool I also need those, I just find 161 euro a little bit much for some legos.. What did you do to your brakes?? |
hello berserker :) I havent don eanything with it yet, but I am going to do the same as I did on mye old skool derby. VwII 239mm vented brakes from golf 2 in front and golf 2 drumbrakes in the rear. more than enough and brakes like hell :)
the VW II calippers fit perfectly with the g40 calipper carrier, but you can also use carriers from a golf 1 with VWII calippers. have to work a little with them, but not much.. easy with a grinder.. |
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VW2 calipers are also used on polo g40's and fit on later model polo's carriers+front legs... Like I did: Polo 2f legs with vw2 calippers with Brembo Max discs and ferodo ds2500 blocks.. |
yes, my brakes will be similar to this. the 2f legs and the mk1 legs are the same i think. the only thing I need is the carrier you have on theese legs. drilled and grooved vented discs and greenstuff og other blocks also help a lot yes.. what did you do to your master cylinder and brake servo ? nothing ? I dont know what fits here..
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No polo 1 legs are different from polo 2 and 2f legs, you need the legs with half moon shaped braking blocks and not the square ones, The discs from the square ones have a different offset and do not fit.. If you get legs with the half moon shaped blocks, you just need to replace the callipers for the vw2 ones and the rests will fit perfectly.. I don't change my master cilinder because it will make no difference because the cilinders of the callipers are the same, and my Audi already has brake servo.. |
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well, I made it fit with mk1 legs, caliper carriers for mk1 golf with VWII calipers and the calipers.. but I will give your version a try if i do not have the parts for my one. I also use the original master cylinder and brake servo on my derby.. works perfectly. |
the half moon shaped brakes are allready much better than the square ones...
been to Eindhoven? liked it? |
yes, I think they are, but I am mounting VWII calippers anyhow. the smaller brakes will get overheated on track. Yes I liked einhoven :) got drunk, allthough all the bars closed at 10 in the evening. I work as a bartender and planned on having a drink, but none of the bartenders there could mix a longdrink. You guys have shitty bartenders :) otherwise I liked it a lot ;)
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I think you went to a different Eindhoven than me :tongue: .... The vw2 calipers were on a polo g40 so they do fit easily, but the calliper carriers for a g40 are different, they have an extra bracket which causes 13" rims to fit very hard... |
I know :) if you have the right offset on the rims, 13" fits :) I have got a shit load of parts, so I'll just try different combinations til i find one that seem ok ;)
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10 o clock? maybe youre watch was on asian time? :tongue:
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replied the mail
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thanks serge pot.. the carbs are for the other car, my racetrack polo :) Pretty sure the clock was on GMT +1 :)
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mmh strange... but hey you found serge! dont let him crawl before me serge... unless he pay's mine too off course :tongue: |
he, he.. dont worry berendd.. I already have the carbs, I just need some info on how to set hem up.. And after a long time I have finally found someone that knows how ;)
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just kidding, I think Serge can be helpfull with that.. my carbs are waiting in the shed too, I need him to make an inlet, unfortunately I'm not a welding champion myself. |
so someone has got information which his ears are still flappering :D
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had a very good discussion with serge yesterday, hoping for a smaller follow-up today ;)
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just bought another car for parts.. thing are beginning to happend now and I have used about 1000 euros on parts just the last two months :) just have to wait until the summer so I can get the chassis welded and painted.. well this is the car I got for about 120 euros..
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Nice car for 120 euros. Nice colour. And I like the interior of the car! Very sweet!
The roof, is that original? |
nah.. the redneck dit not get the car threw mot control, and found out that chopping of the roof seemed like fun :) I also have to add that this car has got an extremely rare HC engine with 1100ccm and 60hp.
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looks pretty good though..
shame that they cut the roof out, but a good excuse to make a ragtop polo! |
he, he.. well, you are welcome to have a try at getting that approved by the department of motorized vehicles :)
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We don't say anything to them. :D ;) |
I also have a HC in my audi, actually on first sight the polo doesn't look that bad at all, but don't they all.. :rolleyes:
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